American Sean Swarner takes on Everest: A Cancer's Survivors Journey to the World's highest Summit
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How can this be, a guy going to Everest on a Guided Sherpa Expedition? Has that happened before?

Sean's Q&A: 

Question from EverestNews.com: We understand you are planning an Everest attempt Spring 2002: Tell us about your yourself and your cause.

Answer Sean Swarner: Wow, that's a huge question.  I could go on and on with that one, however I'll try to keep it short so you don't have to weed through a lot of fluff!   About myself?  Well I'm 27, born and raised in a small town called Willard, OH.  I did a lot of outdoor activities growing up ranging from soccer to swimming, to track, to camping, to basically anything outside. When I was in the 8th grade (toward the end of the year), I was diagnosed in the 4th and final stages of Hodgkin's Disease. 

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The doctors gave me less than 3 months to live.  A year and a half of intense chemotherapy, I was put into remission.  A few months later, on a routine check-up, the Dr. found a golf ball-sized tumor on my right lung.  It was Askin's Disease (a very rare cancer affecting about 3 out of a million people I think... lucky me huh??) and this time I was given less than 2 WEEKS to live.  Apparently I'm the only person in the world to have ever had these two cancers and the prognosis was so unknown, they didn't give me much hope at all.  Another round of chemotherapy and radiation, so intense I was semi-conscious most of the time!  Spent SUCH a long time in the hospital learning to breathe again and poking fun at the nurses and playing video games while my brother and family snuck me pizzas!!!  (but that's an entirely different story for a different time ;)  ).

I graduated from Willard High School and then went to Westminster College in New Wilmington, PA where I earned my BS in Psychology.  I then moved to Jacksonville, FL to get my MS in Counseling Psychology.  I wanted to become a counselor for cancer patients and eventually a psychologist for them as well.  After my 3rd term there (2 more to go), I was accepted into a Doctoral program in Chicago at the Illinois School of Professional Psychology.  I was on my way to becoming a psychologist and helping cancer patients!!  I took some time off from my studies in FL to re-evaluate my life and get my ideas straight.  I wasn't sure if I was ready to become directly involved with cancer patients.  Especially those who were teens, since I didn't think I could handle looking into their eyes and seeing the pain they were going through and knowing I went through the same thing twice.  However I DID know that I wanted to do something for cancer patients and I knew I liked helping people, so I tried to find something I could do to inspire those same people I wanted to help.  I came up with the idea of climbing Mt. Everest.  What better way to inspire cancer patients/survivors than to climb to the highest peak in the world, I thought?  I figured I had done some climbing in Guatemala, Hawaii, in the Appalachian area and some limited stuff in the Rockies, and if I got the experience necessary, I really thought I could do it.  And IF I did, imagine the impact it could have on people around the world?

So my brother and I founded a not-for-profit organization called The Cancer Climber Association.  We not only wanted to use this climb as the cornerstone, but we also wanted to offer unique opportunities to people so they could challenge themselves and possibly overcome their self-imposed limitations.  We thought that candlelight dinners were boring.  Silent auctions weren't too exciting either, so we came up with this idea of doing FUN things like bungee jumping, climbing, expeditions... anything to get out and active and enjoy life again to the fullest!

After we founded Cancer Climber, we packed up what we could and headed to Colorado.  We camped for a couple of weeks before we found a place to live and have been working on this ever since.  I've been in Estes Park, Colorado training for Everest since July.  I was supposed to leave in October to climb Cho Oyu, however due to the 9/11 attacks, that was cancelled.  And I have to say I was in NYC at the time and it scared the crap out of me!!  I admire every person who was there and my heart goes out to all those who lost people in the World Trade Center! 

So there you have it, I guess!!  Who I am, and why I'm doing what I'm doing. I'm just trying to offer hope to other people affected by cancer and trying to make people appreciate life to the fullest!  We are actually getting a flag together of as many people as possible who have been affected by cancer.  We hope to take that flag to the summit, take a picture of it, and send it back to everyone on the flag with words of encouragement!!  So if you know of anyone who either had cancer, has cancer, or if you want to put someone's name on there who didn't make it through cancer, we'll take them on up with us...

Question from EverestNews.com:  We understand you are probably going on an expedition organized by "Of Global Interest LLC" . What are they providing you ?

Answer Sean Swarner: Yea, a super lady named Heather O'Neal has been organizing some things with a group in Nepal.  She's been excellent in helping put us in touch with Wongchu Sherpa who is actually organizing the expedition.  Heather has been great as far as getting things organized for the trip over and the trek to base camp.  From there, it's all in Wongchu's hands!  As for what's being provided?  Well, there's a ton of things she's making sure I have available. She's taken the responsibility of organizing things for me such as hotel reservations, domestic flights, orientation to the country (she studied there for a year or so I think), along with numerous other things!  As for Wongchu?  He's providing me with everything I need to make a safe attempt on Everest (i.e.. food, support, tents, cooks, a personal climbing Sherpa.). 

From what I hear and from what I've found out myself through some research, he's very reputable and has the experience I was looking for.

Question from EverestNews.com: Are you basically your own expedition leader ?

Answer Sean Swarner: Actually not really...  Wongchu is the leader of the expedition.  I also have a personal climbing Sherpa to go with me up and down the mountain. I've been told he's going to be with me through the entire climb.  I'm happy to hear that too!

Question from EverestNews.com: Your lack of experience on 8000 meter peaks and/or altitude is concerning. Does it concern you ?

Answer Sean Swarner: I'd be an idiot if I said it didn't concern me!!  To be honest, I would feel more comfortable if I had more experience, however the time's here and I'm ready to get my happy butt up as far as I can.  I've told a lot of people this, and I guess I can share it with you as well...  it's not about the summit.  It's more about the experience.  It's more about trying to do something that's never been done.  It's about being adventuresome and showing people that things are possible.  It's about inspiring others to live their dreams and to shoot after their own goals.  I agree with you that my lack of experience is concerning.  I'll be the first to tell you that, however all one can ask is to do your best and put your dreams high.  I've always thought that it's better to shoot for the stars and miss than to not try at all.  You are assured you'll land on the moon.  Corny, I know, but it gets a point across.  I also know that I'm going to be getting a lot of criticism for being over there doing something that many say I shouldn't. My answer to that is, you never know until you try.  You never know how something's going to turn out unless you try for yourself.  Never go through life wondering, "what if. . . "

Question from EverestNews.com: Is "Of Global Interest LLC" providing you with Sherpas or others to guide or stay with you on your summit climb?

Answer Sean Swarner: Yea, I think I answered that in another question, but yes.  Of Global Interest LLC is helping me by putting me in touch with the team who will be with me throughout the climb.  Mingma Sherpa will be with me the entire time.  He's been on the summit 6 times (and hopefully 7 this year!!) and will guide me up AND down!

[Note since this interview Sean tells EverestNews.com that Mingmar Tsering Sherpa, who is a very strong and famous Sherpa will NOT be his personal Sherpa. He has not been told who will replace him.]

Question from EverestNews.com: Everest is a dangerous place where climbers die every year. Do you fell you understand the risk of climbing Everest, and that you might not come home ?

Answer Sean Swarner: That's a tricky question.  I think we talked about this on the phone... about making your peace with God.  You know, I've seen death 2 times from cancer.  I was involved in a head-on car wreck in a Tracker with a total collision speed of over 100 mph.  I walked away.  I flew 30 yards through the air in another car after sliding on ice.   I walked away.  I had a temperature of over 106 once and fried my brain (could explain a lot!!).  I went to college and partied (and somehow graduated!!).  I've been through a lot is what I'm trying to say.  For me to say that I'm not scared of coming home in a box, or not coming home at all would be lying.  However, the truth is, you can die in a car.  You can die walking down steps.  And from recent events, you can die by being in a building!  I think that when your time is up, your time is up and you must go.  I plan on living every day to the fullest until that time comes!  I plan on fighting to the end until I have no resources left.  Granted that could happen on Everest.  It's been proven that people don't come home, and I know it's nearly impossible to compare riding in a car to climbing Everest, but the truth is, when the time's up on the proverbial parking meter of life, there's no way to put in extra change :)  It's also tough to think about and talk about because there are so many people who care about me.  They all support me and they all know I want to do this.  They'll just pray I come home safely, like everyone else! 

Question from EverestNews.com: Does it concern you that you will most likely be criticized for not having experience at altitude?

Answer Sean Swarner: Like I said, I'm sure I'll be criticized for not having the experience at altitude.  It's very well established and founded in truth.  I'm not going to sit here and tell people that I have the experience when I really don't.  I'm honest with people and won't try to hide it either.  It does concern me yes, however look in the past at everyone who was criticized for doing something out of the norm.  I'm not saying I should be classified in that same category, no way in hell!!  What I'm saying is that people do things that inspire others and impress and surprise others all the time. Why not me?  Why not you?  Why not anyone?  Again, the only way to find out is by trying, and I don't want to have those "what if" questions when it's my time to go!  Also, people can criticize me all they want, but there's only one way to find out... do it.  When I get there and my body doesn't react well, then all those people who criticized me have a right to say, "I TOLD YOU SO!!"  But if everything works out and my body reacts great, then more power to it!  Again, only one way to find out.

Question from EverestNews.com: Some will say "He is NOT ready to try to climb Everest on a non-guided or non-coached basis, that is the bottom line." Response?

Answer Sean Swarner: HA.  response?  Well, it IS a guided expedition.  I'm going to be with someone from start to finish.  All the way from the base camp up to 29,035 (hopefully!!!!) AND down!  If I WERE unguided?   Holy crap would I be scared :)  I would think more than twice about this whole thing!!

Question from EverestNews.com: Why did you decide on Of Global Interest LLC rather than some of the commercial operators that return to Everest just about every year? 

Answer Sean Swarner: Well to be honest, Heather seemed like a very nice person who had her act together.  She showed genuine interest in what I wanted to do and has helped me a LOT in getting everything together.  I sent out a letter to a lot of people and she was one who wrote back saying she supported my idea as well as my thoughts on inspiration.  I really think there were a lot of reasons.  That's like asking someone, "why did you go to 'so-and-so' school?"  There are a lot of different reasons that come to mind, but the overall feeling of that school, or company in this case, is just the right one.

Question from EverestNews.com: Someone will have to allow "Of Global Interest LLC" to place you on their permit. Who you have any idea who's permit you will be on ? and do you understand that the company's permit you are on, will not be responsible for you, except to file paperwork if you die and other non-climbing stuff? 

Answer Sean Swarner: I understand that Wongchu will have to put me on another permit yea.  I do understand that they won't be responsible for me as well.  I think too many people put responsibility in others' hands too often anyhow.  People need to start taking responsibility for themselves.  I know what dangers I'm putting myself into and if something happens to me, more than likely it's my fault.  I won't be too rushed to blame anyone else unless it was something blatantly obvious that went completely against the norm of climbing ethics and responsibilities.  I also have my brother at base camp, and to be honest, if someone tells him that I'm not doing well or that they don't think I should attempt the summit or go any higher.  He'll tell me and I'll listen to him without question.  That fact is built into my brain and I will hopefully NOT change that at altitude.  If he says no, no it is. 

Question from EverestNews.com: How are you going to obtain weather reports? or how will you judge when to attempt the mountain ?

Answer Sean Swarner: The weather reports are being obtained by Wongchu.  He's getting EVERYTHING together for me.  After doing some extensive research on him over the internet, I feel honored that I'm climbing with him and feel that he's going to provide me with nothing but the best.  I figure if he can organize a climb for not only David Breashears, Goran Kropp and many others, he can put together an expedition for me!  I'm in the best, most capable hands!! Sean Swarner

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